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VOLUSIA
FOREVER ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Minutes
Wednesday, October 20,
2004
3:30p.m. - 5:30p.m.
VOTRAN Bus Facility
950 Big Tree Road, South Daytona, Fl 32119 |
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Board
Members in Attendance
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Carrie Stewart, Chair
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Phil Maroney, Vice-Chair
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Anne Hallum |
JoAnn O'Bannon |
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Gordon Kipp
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Robert Williams
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Alan Alshouse |
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Also
in Attendance
Douglas M. Weaver
Rob Walsh
Randall Sleister
Frank B. Gummey, III
Jeanette Munson
Mark Rizzo
Allison Perquin
Steve Strawn
Dinah Pulver |
Lindsay Stevens
Kent Donahue
Jim Russell
Toni Fow
William Day
Lorraine Day
Neil Harrington
Sam Roth |
Meeting Called to Order
Carrie Stewart, Chair, called the meeting to order
at 3:32p.m.
Carrie Stewart, Chair, asked for introductions from
the public participa nts, staff and the Committee Members before
starting with the business part of the meeting.
Roll Call
Carrie Stewart, Chair, instructed the Recording
Secretary to record the roll of the Members in attendance, in which
seven (7) Members were present. Members Linda White and Reid Hughes
were recorded as an Excused Absence.
Approval of Minutes
Carrie Stewart, Chair, called for a motion to approve the July 21,
2004, Minutes. Member JoAnn O'Bannon made a motion to approve
the July 21, 2004, Minutes, as presented. Member Gordon Kipp
seconded the motion that carried by unanimous voice vote.
Evaluation and Ranking of Eligible Applications
– Rob Walsh explained that the first six (6) properties listed on the
Agenda, which were deemed as eligible during the 1st Cycle of 2004
(1-1-04 through 6-30-04), were being ranked to determine their
placement on the Group "A" or "B" List. The ranking determination of
each property (Group "A" or "B" List) would be handled one at a time
with a voice vote.
Rob Walsh and Randall Sleister provided a
PowerPoint presentation with pictures and location maps, and a brief
overview of each property as follows:
Charlene Strawn Old Growth Forest & Rec. Area Property - This
property is approximately 150 acres in size consisting of five (5)
parcels located west of SR 11 in the southwest quadrant of Lake Dias.
Access to the property is via Lake Dias Cemetery Road. The property
provides access to Lake Dias and would allow a variety of recreational
opportunities. It consists of several habitat types; scrub, xeric
hammock and floodplain forest. It is an undeveloped tract of land with
open pasture areas and was part of a large citrus operation. It
contains endangered species and plants. As this property is part of
the "Longleaf Pine Ecosystem," a Florida Forever Group B, full fee
project, the State of Florida could be a source for matching funds
should the County acquire the property. Another possible matching
funds source would be the St. Johns River Water Management District.
The property owner would offer this property to the County as a fee
simple acquisition.
Mr. Steve Strawn, property owner, was present to
provide any additional information or answer any questions.
Member Phil Maroney asked if Lake Dias Cemetery
Road, which provides access to this property, was a dirt or paved
road.
Rob Walsh replied that Lake Dias Cemetery Road is a
County maintained dirt road.
Chair Carrie Stewart asked if there were future
plans to pave Lake Dias Cemetery Road.
Douglas Weaver explained that the County has an
aggressive five-year plan in place to pave dirt roads throughout the
County. However, an estimated time as to when Lake Dias Cemetery Road
would be paved could not be provided.
Member JoAnn O'Bannon asked if there was public
access to Lake Dias.
Rob Walsh responded that public access could be
achieved via the County Park on the eastern side of the lake, directly
off SR11. He added that the Strawn family donated the land that the
park lies on. This park has a boat ramp, bathroom facilities, picnic
areas and a playground area.
Member Gordon
Kipp made a motion to add the Charlene Strawn Old Growth Forest
& Rec. Area Property to the Group "A" List of eligible properties.
Member Phil Maroney seconded the motion that carried by
unanimous voice vote.
Double B Ranch Property – This property is approximately 3,800
acres in size located on the north side of CR305 in Seville with the
eastern boundary abutting the Volusia/Flagler County line, and the
northern boundary abutting property owned by the St. Johns River Water
Management District known as the Crescent Lake Conservation Area. It
also contains several natural lakes. The property has been actively
managed for silviculture via a timber lease and agricultural
opportunities (i.e., hunting and cattle operation). Access to the
property would be via CR305. This property is comprised of several
major habitat types including bottomland swamp, flatwoods/marsh lake,
scrub and pine flatwoods. County staff approached the District to
determine what their interest would be in the acquisition of this
property and the District indicated that they are very interested. The
property owner would offer this property as a conservation easement
acquisition.
Member Phil Maroney asked whether there would be
any recreational opportunities for the public with a conservation
easement.
Rob Walsh explained that any recreational
opportunities for the public would be negotiated with the conservation
easement, but would be unlikely.
Member Alan
Alshouse made a motion to add the Double B Ranch Property to
the Group "A" List of eligible properties. Member JoAnn O’Bannon
seconded the motion that carried by unanimous voice vote.
Rob Walsh explained that the next two (2)
properties to be evaluated (Timberlands Consolidated and WDA
Partnership, and Lafayette Landings) were submitted together as a
contiguous/joint project.
Timberlands Consolidated and WDA Partnership Property– This
property is approximately 219 acres in size located east of SR11, east
of the community of DeLeon Springs. Access to the property is via
Lafayette Landings Drive. The northern boundary abuts the Lafayette
Landings Property, which is also being evaluated for placement on the
Group "A" or "B" List of eligible properties for this cycle. The
southern boundary abuts 1,100 acres, also known as Timberlands
Consolidated, that was jointly acquired in 2002 by the St. Johns River
Water Management District and the County. Little Haw Creek traverses
the property. This property has been actively managed for silviculture
and hunting. The property primarily consists of pine plantation with
the dominant habitat types being floodplain swamp and hydric flatwoods.
There would be recreational opportunities, as the property owner would
be offering this as a fee simple acquisition.
Discussion ensued after Member Robert Williams
pointed out that a funding source had not been identified.
Rob Walsh explained that County staff approached
the District to determine their interest in the potential acquisition
of this property. At this time the District does not have an interest.
He added that County staff had not actively solicited any other
funding sources. However, County staff would actively solicit other
funding sources if the property were placed on the Group "A" List.
Douglas Weaver added that even though the District
did not express an interest in the potential acquisition of this
property, the County has the ability to fully fund the acquisition of
a property and seek a funding partner later.
Member Robert
Williams made a motion to add the Timberlands Consolidated and
WDA Partnership Property to the Group "A" List of eligible properties.
Member Gordon Kipp seconded the motion that carried by
unanimous voice vote.
Lafayette Landings Property – This property is
approximately 152 acres in size located east of SR11, east of the
community of DeLeon Springs. There is no access to the property other
than through the Timberlands Consolidated and WDA Partnership
Property. The southern boundary abuts the Timberlands Consolidated and
WDA Partnership Property, which is also being evaluated for placement
on the Group "A" or "B" List of eligible properties for this cycle.
The eastern boundary abuts the 15,500 acre Plum Creek Property that
was jointly acquired in 2002 by the St. Johns River Water Management
District and the County. The property primarily consists of pine
plantation with the dominant habitat types being floodplain swamp and
hydric flatwoods.
Member Alan Alshouse made a motion to add the Lafayette
Landings Property to the Group "A" List of eligible properties. Member
JoAnn O’Bannon seconded the motion that carried by
unanimous voice vote.
Russell (Port Orange) Property
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Rob Walsh reminded the Committee
that this property had been submitted during the 1st cycle of 2003,
but the Committee had not determined it as eligible for further
consideration by a vote of 4 to 2. Since that time, the City of Port
Orange contacted the Trust for Public Lands (TPL) who entered into a
contract for purchase with the property owner. The City of Port Orange
and TPL submitted an application to Florida Communities Trust (FCT)
during this year for a 50% reimbursement and ranked 11th, which would
qualify them for reimbursement monies. The City of Port Orange
resubmitted an application to the Volusia Forever Land Acquisition
Program for the 1st cycle of 2004 and was determined as eligible for
further consideration. This property is approximately 18 acres
in size located on the south side of Spruce Creek (an Outstanding
Florida Waterway) in the city limits of Port Orange and west of I-95.
It is surrounded by development with the southern boundary abutting a
gated subdivision. The only land access is through the gated
community. Otherwise, access would be via water from the Gamble
Property. The property consists of three (3) habitat types; xeric
hammock, upland mixed forest and floodplain swamp. Exotic species
(i.e., bamboo, bahia) were found on the property, but in limited
amounts. There are three (3) structures (a single-family dwelling, a
barn and a shed) on the property. Should the County and City acquire
this property, the City would primarily handle the management
responsibilities after both parties enter into a management agreement
that would be approved by County Council.
Kent Donahue, representative for the City of Port
Orange, was present to provide additional information and answer any
questions. He stated that the City of Port Orange intends to use this
property for public use and an extension of the activities occurring
on the Gamble Property. Access to the property would primarily be via
water. The City's maintenance crews and/or caretaker would use the
roadway that can be accessed through the gated community.
Member Gordon Kipp expressed a concern that Volusia
Forever funds would be used to fund a city park with the County
receiving little-to-no benefits.
Douglas Weaver explained that the property would be
in joint ownership (City and County) with the City having the primary
management responsibilities. The one thing that has changed is the
level/percent of funding participation, which could be 25% County, 25%
City and 50% State.
Member Robert Williams pointed out that the
Committee's position has been not to acquire properties with
single-family dwellings. He asked who would be responsible for the
maintenance/repairs to this single-family dwelling.
Douglas Weaver reminded the Committee that
Resolution 2004-80, Section 4 g, states that the acquisition of lands
with structures is discouraged, but would be considered on a
case-by-case basis.
Kent Donahue responded that the property owner
would be replacing the roof prior to closing with TPL and the
management responsibilities would be worked out between the City and
County through a management agreement.
Lindsay Stevens, representative for TPL, was
present to provide additional information and to answer any questions.
She stated that the Russell's would be selling the property to TPL,
who would in turn sell the property to the City of Port Orange for the
same price. The Russell's agreed to replace the roof so it wouldn't
have to be replaced for many years (15 - 20). As far as the other
maintenance/repair responsibilities, this would be something that the
City and County would work out through a management agreement.
Douglas Weaver explained that the County's
preference would be to participate as a funding source and the City,
through a management agreement, would handle the management
responsibilities.
Kent Donahue added that any renovations to the
house would be the responsibility of the City.
Member Robert Williams asked if the residents of
the gated community would have pedestrian access to the property or
would the sole access be via water.
Kent Donahue responded that the type of access
(water and/or pedestrian) is being worked out and a definite answer
could not be provided to the Committee. He added that the residents of
the gated community do not have a park.
Member Phil Maroney expressed a concern that this
property would be used as a private park for the adjoining gated
community with public access being provided to the residents of the
gated community.
Lindsey Stevens explained that TPL's goal is to
acquire lands for preservation. Initially TPL had the same concerns
that the Committee is having with the creation of a private park.
However, the City has committed, through the FCT application, to
provide access via the water from the Gamble Property, with additional
acquisitions to connect the Russell Property to the Gamble Property.
TPL views this type of commitment as providing pubic access to all as
well as preservation of public lands.
Several Committee Members continued to express
concerns over the type of public access and issues associated with the
potential creation of a private park for the adjoining gated
community.
Kent Donahue explained that the Committee's
concerns would be addressed and any issues would be resolved between
the City and County.
Member JoAnn
O’Bannon made a motion to add the Russell (Port Orange)
Property to the Group "A" List of eligible properties. Member Alan
Alshouse seconded the motion that carried by a voice
vote of 5 to 2 with Members Phil Maroney and Gordon Kipp opposing.
Chair Carrie Stewart requested that Kent Donahue
provide the Committee with a summary addressing the Committee's
concerns and issues.
Progress Energy Astor Property – This property is
approximately 1,600 acres in size consisting of six (6) parcels
located in the southeast quadrant of Lake George, north of SR 40, west
of the Town of Pierson. It is within the Division of Forestry's Lake
George State Forest boundary and is on their "Desired Acquisition
List" as well as the District's 1999 Acquisition List. There is access
to the property via Shell Harbor Road and Volusia Bar Road, County
maintained dirt roads. This property consists of two (2) habitat
types; pine flatwoods and floodplain swamp. This property has been
heavily forested and timbered. Progress Energy initially intended to
use this property as a potential site for a power plant. Since that
time, the property has been used for silviculture operations.
Member Anne Hallum asked which agency would manage
the property should the County acquire it.
Randall Sleister responded that the management
responsibilities have not been determined. However, they would most
likely be turned over to the State.
Steven Strawn added that the Division of Forestry's
mindset has changed from silviculture activities to restoration of
lands.
Member Alan
Alshouse made a motion to add the Progress Energy Astor
Property to the Group "A" List of eligible properties. Member Robert
Williams seconded the motion that carried by a unanimous
voice vote.
Group B Properties
Mayo, Harrington and Kilian (Pine Island)
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Rob Walsh explained that the
Mayo, Harrington and Kilian (Pine Island) Properties have been on the
Group "B" List for four (4) cycles. Per Resolution 2004-80, the
Committee has the authority to recommend to the County Council the
removal of any property from the Group "B" List upon the expiration of
four (4) ranking cycles. He added that there has been no change in the
status of these properties (i.e., no funding partners, limited
recreational opportunities). However, the County made an offer to the
owners of the Mayo Property, but it was rejected and the counter offer
was well above the appraisal.
Member Gordon Kipp made a motion to remove the Mayo,
Harrington and Kilian Pine Island Properties from the Group "B" List
of eligible properties. Member Phil Maroney seconded the motion
that carried by unanimous voice vote.
Group A Properties
O ’Reilly-
King Property–
Rob Walsh explained
that initially the District had an interest in being a funding partner
on the potential acquisition of the O'Reilly-King Property. However,
the District has changed its position and is no longer interested in
being a funding partner. It is staff's recommendation that the
O'Reilly-King Property be moved from the Group "A'" List to the Group
"B" List of eligible properties.
Douglas Weaver added that there is a long-term
timber lease on this property possibly until 2015, which may be a
factor concerning a fee simple acquisition and it may not allow public
access. This property is not contiguous to other public lands.
Member Gordon
Kipp made a motion to move the O’Reilly-King Property from the
Group "A" List to the Group "B" List of eligible properties. Member
Alan Alshouse seconded the motion that carried by
unanimous voice vote.
Scheible Property - Rob Walsh explained that
the County made an offer to the property owners, but an acceptable
offer could not be reached. It is staff's recommendation to move the
Scheible Property from the Group "A'" List to the Group "B" List of
eligible properties.
Member Gordon Kipp made a motion to move the Scheible
Property from the Group "A" List to the Group "B" List of eligible
properties. Member Alan Alshouse seconded the motion that
carried by unanimous voice vote.
Kirton Farm/Akins Property – Rob Walsh
explained that the Kirton Farm/Akins Property had been moved from the
Group "B" List to the Group "A" List by the County Council with
instructions for County staff to seek funding from the USDA Farmland
Protection Program. After two (2) attempts without success, it is
staff's recommendation that the Kirton Farm/Akins Property be moved
from the Group "A" List to the Group "B" List.
Discussion ensued regarding the removal of the
Kirton Farm/Akins Property from the Group "A" List and the Group "B"
List.
Member Robert Williams reminded the Committee that
this property originally had been on the Group "B" List for several
cycles and questioned why it should be placed back on that list after
two (2) unsuccessful attempts had been made to seek funding from USDA
Farmland Protection Program.
Member Robert
Williams made a motion to remove the Kirton Farm/Akins Property
from the Group "A" List and the Group "B" List of eligible properties.
Member Gordon Kipp seconded the motion that carried by a
voice vote of 6 to 1 with Member Anne Hallum opposed.
Other Properties - Rob Walsh explained that the
following properties were currently under contract with third parties:
Stanaki, Townsend-Schroeder Trust, Eagan (DeBary), Murphy (DeBary) and
Akers Quail Ranch. At this time staff would recommend leaving these
properties on the Group "A" List. However, the Akers Quail Ranch
property is under new ownership after closing on September 24, 2004.
Staff intends to meet with the new owner to discuss the potential for
them to participate as a willing seller in the Volusia Forever Land
Acquisition Program.
Douglas Weaver added that even though the
applicants are willing sellers, this does not preclude them from
seeking other offers. The real estate market is very competitive. The
County and other funding agencies are limited by the appraisals, and
it is hard to compete for land with those limitations. This is one of
the reasons why the Group "A" List should be large. It allows County
staff to work on the acquisition of several projects even though some
may not come to fruition.
Staff Updates
FCT Applications
- Rob Walsh explained that County
staff had submitted an FCT application for the Bayou Bay and Paul
Properties, which are located in the Doris Leeper Spruce Creek
Preserve. These acquisitions were purchased with 100% of Volusia
Forever monies and County staff was seeking a 50% reimbursement for
these properties. The application scored #4 out of 77 and would
receive a 50% reimbursement ($1.3 million).
Committee Meetings - Rob Walsh stated that it
was staff's recommendation to cancel the November and December
meetings. The Committee agreed and canceled the November and December
meetings. The next meeting will be held on January 19, 2005, which is
the first meeting of the year 2005. After reviewing the meeting
records, staff would recommend that the 2005 meeting schedule be
trimmed down to four (4) core meetings (January - Eligibility & Goal
Setting; April - Ranking & Election of Officers; July - Eligibility;
and September - Ranking). Resolution 2001-69 states that the Committee
will meet at least quarterly. This schedule meets that requirement. It
also states that special meetings can be called when deemed necessary
by the Chair or designee (staff). The Committee agreed with staff's
recommendation and approved the 2005 meeting schedule.
Florida Natural Areas Inventory - Douglas
Weaver explained that a natural areas assessment was conducted on
seven (7) of the County's sites (Barberville, Catholic diocese, Green
Springs, Lake George, Southern Pines, Var-Gal, Wiregrass Prairie
Preserve). This assessment was conducted to provide assistance with
what type of land management practices are needed on various sites.
Randall Sleister added that the assessment also
helps support the County's acquisition efforts in the Volusia/Flagler
Conservation Corridor by identifying endangered species that are found
within the Corridor.
General Updates -Douglas Weaver introduced two
(2) new employees of the Land Acquisition and Management Division,
Allison Perquin and Mark Rizzo. He explained that these new employees
were Biologists and would complement the Forestry staff. He also
stated that one (1) new position was approved for FY 2004/2005, which
has been filled by Bonnie Cary. Ms. Cary will be the Division's
Naturalist, Outreach Education Coordinator.
Public Comments/Participation
Sam Roth, representative for the owners of the RBD
Limited Property, requested that the Committee move the property from
the Group "B" to the Group "A" List of eligible properties. This
property is 350 acres in size located on the St. Johns River off SR 44
in DeLand. It is adjacent to the Lake Woodruff National Wildlife
Refuge. He added that there are developers interested in acquiring
this property.
Rob Walsh explained that there has been no change
in the status of this property. Initially, the Lake Woodruff National
Wildlife Refuge expressed an interest in the potential acquisition of
this property through conversations with Harold Morrow, Refuge
Manager. At this time they are not able to be a funding partner for
the acquisition of this property. This acquisition would also require
a boundary adjustment, which the refuge is not in a position to
undertake.
Member Alan Alshouse recalled that this property
was less than 5% developable and would be very expensive to develop
with all the wetland impact/mitigation fees.
Randall Sleister added that the property consisted
primarily of floodplain swamp and the development potential was very
limited.
Sam Roth continued to plead his case to have the
Committee move the RDB Limited Property from the Group "B" List to the
Group "A" List.
Member Anne Hallum asked if the only component that
held this property up from being a Group "A" List property was the
lack of a funding partner.
Rob Walsh explained that the lack of a funding
partner was not the only reason why this property was placed on the
Group "B" List. One of the other provisions is public access, which is
very limited as this property is surrounded on three (3) sides by
water and the majority of the property is floodplain swamp.
Chair Carrie Stewart stated that the Committee was
not prepared to take action and move this property to the Group "A"
List. However, she informed Mr. Roth that the Committee’s
recommendations would be forwarded to the County Council for approval
on November 11, 2004, and it was his right to present this request to
them for final approval.
Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 5:34p.m. |
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