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MINUTES
VOLUSIA FOREVER ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Wednesday, September 18, 2002
3:30p.m. - 5:30p.m.
VOTRAN Facility, 950 Big tree road
south daytona, Florida 32119

Board Members in Attendance Also in Attendance

Reid Hughes, Chair
Carrie Stewart, Vice-Chair 
Philip Maroney
Richard Schuler
Gordon Kipp
Alan Alshouse
Anne Hallum

Douglas Weaver
Rob Walsh
Randall Sleister
Connie Teeters
Dinah Pulver

 

Excused absence
Dennis Bayer
Robert Williams

Meeting Called to Order

Reid Hughes, Chair, called the meeting to order at 3:35p.m.

Roll Call

Reid Hughes, Chair, instructed to record the members present as they signed in.

Approval of Minutes

Reid Hughes made a motion for approval of the Minutes from the August 21, 2002, meeting.

Carrie Stewart, Vice Chair seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

Discussion topics

Update on County Council Issues

1. Small Lot Acquisition Program

Reid Hughes, Chair asked staff to update the committee on the Small Lot Acquisition Program.

Rob Walsh indicated that the Small Lot Acquisition was presented to the County Council to approve and they passed it unanimously. They approved 2% of the annual Volusia Forever tax receipts with a cap of $65,000 as the committee had requested. Staff is in the process of drafting letters and a return card to be sent out to resident landowners in designated areas. The letter explains the Volusia Forever Program and they are being given an option to donate or sell their property to Volusia County. The return card has a “check the box” option to donate or sell their property for the assessed value of the property. If the property owner would not be willing to participate in the program, staff would continue with the search for willing applicants. The assessed value of the targeted areas is between $300 and $1,200 an acre. In the past year 60 acres of land have been donated to the county. Most of these lands are in antiquated subdivisions. The program should be underway within 4 to 6 weeks. It is unknown at the present time what kind of response or staff time will be needed. Related to donations, the county also absorbs back taxes and related expenses that may have accumulated over the years so there is an expense associated with some of these donations.

Phil Maroney inquired as to the frequency we anticipate sending out letters to prospective property owners.

Doug Weaver responded that Linda Harper is in charge of this and if the letters go out in the next couple of weeks and give the recipients 30 days to respond, then by early November we should have some idea of the response rate. Another 100 letters may be sent out in mid November and give them until the end of the year to respond. The goal at this point is to send out approximately 500 letters a year.

Randy Sleister responded that the county often gets donations just after trim notices are sent out.

Anne Hallum asked what the incentives are for the landowner to donate land to the County.

Rob Walsh replied that some people could use it as a tax write off and in some cases we will be dealing with heirs or people that just want to get rid of the property. In the letter conservation purposes will be highlighted. The owner may have a desire to preserve their land for conservation purposes and feel they are doing something good for the environment.

Doug Weaver responded that for the most part these antiquated plats are not vested under the County’s land development regulations. At some point after paying taxes for some number of years they may decide to dispose of the property. These are lands that have very low economic value, are difficult to obtain a building permit, have no facilities or structures, and have low development pressures.

Anne Hallum asked if we were looking at the value of the property taxes that the taxpayer is giving up.

Rob Walsh stated that in most cases the annual tax bill is approximately $6.

Carrie Stewart asked if this would be a significant amount of money and that at some time in the future the County Council will say we can’t do this program because of too much property being taken off the tax rolls.

Rob Walsh stated that he did not see that happening.

Randy Sleister stated that we could make a good argument that we would be making enough money off of timber revenues and other uses of the property that it would offset any loss of revenues.

Alan Alshouse asked what the demographic area was that we would be targeting first.

Rob Walsh stated that we are basically targeting 8 areas throughout the county. The areas include Cape Atlantic Estates, University Highlands, and areas in Deltona with some good Scrub Jay habitat. There are also two small subdivisions in the Lake George area. Staff has identified these antiquated plats. In most of these plats the County already own parcels that have been acquired through land donations or default. Therefore, the County already has a presence.

Doug Weaver said that the first target area was Fountain City near Lake George. Another target would include Cape Atlantic Estates for large antiquated subdivisions such as this one. Portions thereof would be targeted in a logical manner. Fountain City is a smaller area and would be a good test area to see what kind of response we get. Staff estimates that it will take three years to determine how successful this program will be.

Randy Sleister stated that staff doesn’t want to create a market where a market doesn’t exist.

Carrie Stewart asked if our small lot money accumulates and rolls over from year to year?

Doug Weaver stated, yes it does.

Carrie Stewart stated that it is conceivable that if we don’t use the money one-year we could use it to buy a larger piece of property the next year.

Alan Alshouse inquired as to other counties doing Small Lot Acquisition.

Randy Sleister replied that the Nature Conservancy was doing it for Brevard County and Highlands County.

Carrie Stewart asked if the people that donate land get any recognition for doing so?

Rob Walsh commented that staff had discussed it but as of yet had not decided on anything.

Spruce Creek Preserve Boundary Adjustment

Rob Walsh stated that the County Council unanimously approved the Spruce Creek Preserve Boundary expansion to specifically include the Stanaki and the Ocklawaha properties. Staff is developing an application, which will be forwarded to ARC for review and approval. The County should hear back from them before the end of the year. If it is successful then the State will become a financial player in the acquisition of those particular properties.

Reid Hughes commented we have opportunities to preserve our ecosystem by expanding these properties.

Rob Walsh interjected that within those boundaries we also have the opportunity to include the Fore property to the north of the Ocklawaha piece and the Paul property to the east of it.

B. Presentation and Discussion of Target Acquisitions

Rob Walsh included in the committee member’s packet generalized considerations for identifying potential acquisition properties. He presented two maps to review with the committee. Staff has met with the Water Management District because they have an Acquisition Program going on within Volusia County and it is to our benefit to continue to meet with them to make sure we don’t cross their plans. They have provided us with their 5-year targeted acquisition areas. The goal is to build upon what the District and the State are doing. On The Future Land Use map the entire center of the county is green and that is fair game for acquisition if it meets some of the other Volusia Forever criteria. There is the corridor that comes down the center of the County and includes the Plum Creek/Rayonier purchase that was just approved by the Council. It appears that several corridors are being developed: one straight down the middle and one going across the top to the Ormond area. In addition, the District has just recently closed on 500 acres around Lake Disston, which is located on the Flagler/Volusia line. Staff intends on identifying larger property owners and talking to them to see if they are interested in selling outright to build on the corridors or are interested in the less than fee techniques that are available to them. Staff will go forward with property owners that have been solicited and put them in the process. The first cycle had some good properties submitted. The second cycle of properties are not of the same quality for the expectations of what this program is about. Staff wants to confirm with the committee that we are going to be more proactive about bringing high quality parcels to the committee in this program.

Randy Sleister stated that the Florida Natural Areas Inventories (FNAI) has gone through the state and identified the natural areas and has done this two times, with one being about 10 years old. FNAI is a scientific independent entity, not a government agency. They map areas in the state with potential natural areas and will share information with us.

Phil Maroney made a motion for the committee to adopt the targeted acquisition as presented.

Alan Alshouse seconded the motion.

Dick Schuler asked if this program still included trails and recreation.

Doug Weaver stated this in no way changes the program. The committee gives the staff a directive to go forward with contacting people. Staff will be looking at larger parcels while at the same time reviewing smaller parcels. Staff wants to be more proactive. The word needs to be put out to the public to let them know these programs exist. The process doesn’t change.

After some discussion Carrie Stewart called for a question.

Reid Hughes asked for those of the committee in favor signify by I and those opposed by no. The motion passed unanimously.

Carrie Stewart asked staff how much tax money have we collected at present?

Rob Walsh answered that $2.4 million has been collected this year.

Doug Weaver stated that Plum Creek is costing $4.6 million and the financing package is going to Council Oct 3rd.

Rob Walsh interjected that $3.6 million is projected for 2003. At this time, the projected debt service on Plum Creek will be around $400,000, leaving a net balance of around $3.2 million.

Determination of 2nd Cycle Ranking Meeting Date and Location

Reid Hughes asked if there were any conflicts to having the 2nd cycle Ranking meeting on Tuesday, October 15, 2002. The location will be determined ASAP and notification will be sent out to the members as soon as it is established. He asked for any further discussion.

Reid Hughes asked staff if they could furnish the committee with a summary of the first cycle “B” List Properties.

Rob Walsh stated that the committee would be given the following:

1. Copy of the reports of the “B” properties.

2. Write-ups of the current properties (5) that were eligible for the 2nd cycle ranking.

3. During the presentation a summary of the “B” properties along with any updates that may have taken place.

Doug Weaver announced that there might be some partnership monies available since the Farm Bill has passed for conservation easements or agricultural easements that may apply to one of the “B” list properties. The owner is believed to be interested in those monies and it may be something worth considering. Congress actually passed two new bills: The Farm Protection and Forest Legacy program.

Reid Hughes stated that this is to protect the economics of farming and is a good opportunity for farmers in Florida.

Dick Schuler expressed his concern as to the trails and outdoor recreation part of the Volusia Forever program and we should be looking at that as we purchase properties.

Doug Weaver stated that we have been working with other departments in developing trails such as Lake Colby and Lake Beresford. We are also working with the Miami Corporation on a major trail from Enterprise to Brevard County. This is the East Central Rail Trail. Staff has been working on this project for about a year. The Miami Corporation Board has accepted the proposed configuration. This hasn’t been discussed with this committee but is being worked on within the County.

Ann Hallum asked if the committee could be updated on the status of the “A” list properties.

Carrie Stewart indicated that Consolidated Tomoka was interested in talking about easements.

A discussion of easements continued.

Other Business

Rob Walsh asked if there was anyone not wishing to be contacted by staff of the upcoming meeting.

Carrie Stewart indicated if she was not going to be at the meeting she would contact the Chair, Reid Hughes and please do not call her. The Recording Secretary so noted that Carrie Stewart would not be contacted for future meeting reminders. As instructed in a previous meeting the Recording Secretary, as standard operating procedure, will contact each Committee Member prior to their monthly meeting to determine if a quorum will be established.

Meeting adjourned at 4:55 p.m.

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